Excerpts of First US Presidential Debate: Harris-Trump Trade Charges, Clash on Economy, Abortion, Immigration; Kamala’s  ‘Putin Would Eat You’ Jibe at Trump

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Donald Trump and Kamala Harris at first US presidential debate

Washington: During the first US presidential debate, Democratic candidate Kamala Harris accused her Republican opponent, Donald Trump, of arguing bitterly, hitting each other over policies and personal views.

When the topic turned to the Russia-Ukraine conflict, Trump avoided directly answering if he wanted Ukraine to win the war. Instead, he stated, “I think it’s in the US’ best interest to get this war finished.”

Harris responded sharply, taunting Trump for his “friendship” with Putin. She suggested that Trump would buckle under pressure from the Russian leader.

“Putin would be sitting in Kyiv with his eyes on the rest of Europe, starting with Poland,” Harris said. “How quickly you would give up for the sake of favour and what you think is a friendship with what is known to be a dictator who would eat you for lunch.”

On Israel-Hamas conflict

On the Israel-Hamas conflict, Harris voiced her support for a two-state solution. Trump claimed the current situation in Gaza would never have escalated under his presidency and accused Harris of disliking both Israel and the Arab population in the region.

Harris firmly denied Trump’s accusations and reiterated her support for Israel.

Harris also criticised Trump’s global reputation, pointing out how world leaders perceive him.

“I have travelled the world as Vice-President of the United States. World leaders are laughing at Donald Trump. They say you are a disgrace,” she sarcastically remarked.

Throughout the debate, Harris handled Trump’s criticisms with composure, particularly when he attempted to highlight the failures of the Biden administration.

Harris replied, “You are not running against Biden.” 

Harris highlights Trump’s legal troubles

Further, Harris and Trump hurled accusations over his legal challenges and conviction.

To Trump’s charge that the Biden administration was allowing criminals to come into the country through the southern border, Harris said, “I think this is so rich coming from someone who has been prosecuted for national security crimes, economic crimes, election interference has been found liable for sexual assault, and his next big court appearance is in November at his own criminal sentencing.”

Trump shot back, saying, “Every one of those cases was started by them against their political opponent, and I’m winning most of them, and I will win the rest on appeal. And you saw that with the decision that came down just recently from the Supreme Court. I’m winning most of them, but those are cases. It’s called weaponisation. Never happened in this country.”

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Harris framed her argument to voters in the context of these cases and the Supreme Court’s recent ruling regarding presidential immunity.

“The United States Supreme Court recently ruled that the former president would essentially be immune from any misconduct if he were to enter the White House. Again, understand, this is someone who has openly said he would terminate, I’m quoting, terminate the Constitution of the United States that he would weaponise the Department of Justice against his political enemies, someone who has openly expressed disdain for members of our military. Understand what it would mean if Donald Trump were back in the White House with no guard rails. Because certainly, we know now the court won’t stop him. We know JD Vance is not going to stop him. It’s up to the American people,” she said.

Harris says Trump was fired by voters in 2020; Trump retorts world leaders think he is strong

Sharpening her attack, Kamala said that former President Donald Trump was “fired by 81 million voters” in the 2024 election during a debate exchange on the latter’s continuing refusal to acknowledge he lost.

“I got almost 75 million votes, the most votes any sitting President has ever gotten. I was told if I got 63, which was what I got in 2016, you can’t be beaten in the election. People should never be thinking that an election is fraudulent,” Trump said when asked by moderators to explain his recent statements in which he had seemingly acknowledged losing the 2024 election.

“We need two things. We have to have borders, and we have to have good elections. Our elections are bad, and a lot of these illegal immigrants are coming in, they’re trying to get them to vote. They can’t even speak English. They don’t even know what country they’re in, practically. And these people are trying to get them to vote, and that’s why they’re allowing them to come into our country,” he added.

“Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people,” Harris said when asked by moderators to respond to the former President. “So let’s be clear about that, and clearly he is having a very difficult time processing that. But we cannot afford to have a President of the United States who attempts, as he did in the past, to upend the will of the voters in a free and fair election. And I’m going to tell you that I have travelled the world as vice president of the United States, and world leaders are laughing at Donald Trump,” she said.

She added, looking at Trump: “I have talked with military leaders, some of whom work with you, and they say, ‘You’re a disgrace’. And when you then talk in this way in a presidential debate and deny what over and over again are court cases you have lost because you did, in fact, lose that election, it leads one to believe that perhaps we do not have in the candidate to my right, the temperament or the ability to not be confused about fact that’s deeply troubling, and the American people deserve better.”

Trump pushed back, arguing that he had heard from foreign leaders, such as Hungary’s Victor Orban, that the world needed a strong leader like Trump. He said, quoting Orban, “You need Trump back as President. They were afraid of him. China was afraid. And I don’t like to use the word afraid, but I’m just quoting him. China was afraid of him. North Korea was afraid of him. Look at what’s going on with North Korea.”

Harris attacked Trump on abortion, calling him responsible for the Supreme Court decision to end decades of abortion rights. She also attacked him on the January 6, 2020, insurrection and the economy. She said Biden-Harris was left to clean up the mess left behind by Trump. The vice-president forced the former president to defend himself and his comments, including the one about her racial identity.

Trump focussed his attack on Harris over immigration, accusing her and the Biden-Harris administration of letting immigrants enter the US illegally in hordes, who, he added, were taking jobs and pushing up crime rates in the US.

He said it was the weakness of President Joe Biden and his administration that led to the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the Hamas attack on Israel on October 7.

Trump tried repeatedly to hold Harris responsible for the actions of the Biden administration.

In an early exchange on the economy, Harris responded to Trump’s charge that he had left the Biden administration with one of the “greatest economies”, saying, “Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression. Donald Trump left us the worst public health epidemic in a century. Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War. And what we have done is clean up Donald Trump’s mess.”

Trump hit back at her, saying, “She doesn’t have a plan. She copied Biden’s plan, and it’s like four sentences like, Run Spot Run, four sentences that are just, oh, we’ll try and lower taxes. She doesn’t have a plan; take a look at her plan. She doesn’t have a plan.”

At one stage, Trump got a personal. “She’s a Marxist. Everybody knows she’s a Marxist. Her father is a Marxist Professor in Economics, and he taught her well.”

Harris was also rough on him, accusing him of lying repeatedly.

Trump took heat on abortion as expected. And he defended himself, saying, “The Democrats are radical in that. And her vice presidential pick, which I think is a horrible pick, by the way, for our country because he is really out of it. But her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine. He also says execution after birth. It’s execution; no longer abortion because the baby is born is okay, and that’s not okay with me, hence the vote. But what I did is something: for 52 years, they’ve been trying to get Roe v Wade into the states, and through the genius, heart, and strength of six Supreme Court justices. We were able to do that. Now, I believe in the exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother.”

But Harris was not about to let him off the hook easily. “Donald Trump hand-selected three members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention that they would undo the protections of Roe v Wade, and they did exactly as he intended. And now, in over 20 states, there are Trump abortion bans, which make it criminal for a doctor or nurse to provide health care in one state; it provides prison for life… Trump’s abortion bans make no exception, even for rape and incest, which you understand what that means. The survivors of crime… a violation of their body, do not have the right to decide what happens to their body next… that is immoral. One does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree with the government, and Donald Trump certainly should not be telling a woman what to do with her body.”

Trump: Don’t care about racial identity

Harris’ mother was from India, and her father was from Jamaica. She identified both as black and Indian American. Trump said he does not care how Vice-President Kamala Harris identified racially.

“I don’t, and I don’t care,” Trump said at the presidential debate when he was referencing the earlier statement. “I don’t care what she is. I don’t care if you make a big deal out of something. I couldn’t care less. Whatever she wants to be is okay with me.”

When the moderators pushed back, reminding him of his earlier statement, he said, “So I don’t know. I don’t know. I mean, all I can say is, I read where she was not black that she put out, and I’ll say that. And then I read that she was black, and that’s okay. Either one was okay with me. That’s up to her.”

In July, Trump had said at a black journalists’ conference, “I didn’t know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black, and now she wants to be known as black. So, I don’t know, is she Indian, or is she black?” Trump said.

Asked to respond to Trump’s new position on the issue, Harris said, “I think it’s a tragedy that we have someone who wants to be President who has consistently, over the course of his career, attempted to use race to divide the American people. You know, I do believe that the vast majority of us know that we have so much more in common than what separates us, and we don’t want this kind of approach that is just constantly trying to divide us, especially by race.”

The debate, hosted by ABC News, was the first time the two candidates faced off. Notably, Harris and Trump shook hands at the start of the debate, breaking an eight-year trend of no handshakes on the presidential debate stage.

Harris reportedly made a point of properly introducing herself to Trump during their first meeting, giving the heated discussions a personal dimension.

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